aimmyarrowshigh:

deputychairman:

Why are you booing him? He’s right

#this was a STUPID PLAN
#based on the First Order not having any WINDOWS (via @deputychairman)

And based on being unwilling to admit she HAD no plan, and WAS in fact just trying to bail everyone out and see how many, if any, survived. She didn’t ram the Supremacy until almost every escape pod had been destroyed. HOLDO caused the deaths of far, far more Resistance personnel and soldiers than Poe ever did. HOLDO let her vanity and vainglory get in the way of effective leadership – if the people ON THE BRIDGE, FUELING YOUR TRANSPORTS, are helping to organize a mutiny against you because your plan is bad and going to get them killed, that’s a bad plan.

Holdo’s entire action was based on wanting Leia to be proud of her, and not Poe, honestly. And granted: that’s a perspective we know that Poe can have, too, but what Poe wants more than anything else is to make sure the Resistance survives and the First Order is brought down without a chance of restarting the way the Empire did. Holdo mainly seems to want to be in charge and restart the New Republic that failed to stop the Empire’s roots to grow into the First Order in the first place, and she was unwilling to ACT against the First Order until what, twelve Rebels were left?

She could have saved all of those unarmed, unshielded escape pods if she’d rammed the Supremacy as soon as the last pod detached from the cruiser. But she didn’t, because she never planned to take any actual actions to stop the First Order. Holdo’s idea of resistance was so passive, so laissez-faire, that she might as well have been a First Order mole for all the good she did.

The difference between “the fire that will restore the Republic” and “the fire that will burn the First Order down” is immeasurable.

Holdo – quintessentially in a White Feminist move – wanted to “rebel” only as far as it restored her own place of power in the Galaxy as a Senator in the broken New Republic that ignored the growing threat of fascism until the NR itself was destroyed. (This New Republic she wants to restore being the same one that allowed slavery to flourish “in secret” across the Galaxy, allowed for poverty like that on Jakku, allowed for the immoral disparity of wealth and power on Cantonica).

In Bloodline, Holdo doesn’t stand up for Leia when Leia presents evidence that the First Order is a real threat. Why would Holdo have a ranking position in the Resistance when she didn’t think there was a need for it?? (BAD WRITING, THAT’S WHY. GODDAMMIT, STORYGROUP, WAS THIS NOT YOUR ENTIRE PURPOSE AS A THING? TO MAKE A STORY OF THIS SCOPE ACTUALLY MAKE NARRATIVE SENSE???)

In LPoA, Holdo’s “rebellion” doesn’t actually exist – she cares about people, specifically her own friends and the people for whom she is the Junior Senator, on Gatalenta. Holdo doesn’t really care about the good of the Galaxy. She cares about herself.

Poe doesn’t care about restoring the New Republic. The New Republic is who looked him in the face and said that deaths caused by the First Order didn’t matter – or didn’t exist. They were corrupt and complacent, and they refused to acknowledge that the ideals of the Empire had not actually died down. Their treatment of poor, disenfranchised Systems – those whom the Empire had most exploited, in some cases – caused those same Imperial ideals to take root again and blossom as an open secret. They allowed for the Centrists’ (literal) xenophobia to be communicated like a legitimate viewpoint, keeping some Imperial POVs mainstream when they could have been condemned. The New Republic did not deserve to be destroyed with Starkiller Base, but it also didn’t do enough good to warrant being restored as it was.

Poe cares about ending the First Order.

Holdo doesn’t.

If Holdo doesn’t care about preventing the tyranny of the First Order, then what exactly is she resisting…?

thatgirlonstage:

renegade-skywalker:

I’d really love to know what the hell Vader was thinking during that pregnant pause after he asks Luke to join him in Empire because Luke just kind of stares at him, says nothing, and then just… falls? Leaving Vader there looking like a total idiot but also wondering what the hell does Luke even think he’s doing?! Only Clone Wars Anakin could have been that extra, all “I’d rather fall into an unfathomable abyss than finish this conversation with you” is such a Skywalker move, so the only thing I imagine Vader really thinking is “Well, he definitely gets that from me.”

Vader: “JOIN ME”

Luke: *falls backward into the abyss*

Vader: … honestly I don’t know what else I expected

kuntsuragi:

kuntsuragi:

since star wars discourse is getting Hot again i just want to point out that its really strange to me that a frequent talking point amongst vehement anti-kylo (and dare i say…anti-reylos…i dont care for shipping btw) fans is that kylo ren shouldn’t get a redemption arc because he’s a space fascist and that if that’s where rian johnson takes the last jedi then star wars is cancelled…

uh, well you’re probably not gonna like what i’m about to tell you about the end of return of the jedi

like, an underlying theme in star wars (which is a byproduct of its reliance on an oedipal dynamic) is that it’s possible for toxic masculinity to be rehabilitated because light and darkness exists in all of us 

i mean, whatever, you can hate kylo ren as much as you please, because he is literally the embodiment of reactionary white masculinity, but a) this new trilogy isn’t even finished yet, so there’s no way of knowing what it will conclusively say on a political level, and b) aren’t villains who are evil for the sake of being evil – with no attempts to explore WHY and HOW they came about adopting facist ideologies – like…boring???